what exactly is put into the file on those who are disfellowedshipped?is the information very detailed,so that others can read such details,or is it just that they have been disfellowedshipped.. for example:suppose someone have been df.for a sexual matter,brother or sister.are the details descriptive of what was committed or is just that they were df.i know that on the outside of the envelope the name is posted and that's it.but if someone were to open the folder and look inside can they get the detailed information on that person?.
when do the elders destroy such folders?can a person who no longer wishes to come back get their records and destroy them themselves?.
blueblades
Most of the records I've seen have been pretty shoddy, generally you can barely tell what happened. Guys are too lazy to take good notes. The summary letter is typically pretty brief, not much detail. JT is quite correct, it depends on who you're dealing with. Clued up guys are a little more concerned about confidentiality because they've been warned of possible legal consequences if they violate ecclesiastical confidence, many have forgotten that instruction.
abeyance
what exactly is put into the file on those who are disfellowedshipped?is the information very detailed,so that others can read such details,or is it just that they have been disfellowedshipped.. for example:suppose someone have been df.for a sexual matter,brother or sister.are the details descriptive of what was committed or is just that they were df.i know that on the outside of the envelope the name is posted and that's it.but if someone were to open the folder and look inside can they get the detailed information on that person?.
when do the elders destroy such folders?can a person who no longer wishes to come back get their records and destroy them themselves?.
blueblades
Depends, have you moved or are you still in the same place. If you're still in the same place it's probably all still there.
Yeah JT, most of the time they want to keep the judicial records in case someone has another problem.
It wasn't just politics those girls knew nothing about, they had the collective IQ of a walnut.
what exactly is put into the file on those who are disfellowedshipped?is the information very detailed,so that others can read such details,or is it just that they have been disfellowedshipped.. for example:suppose someone have been df.for a sexual matter,brother or sister.are the details descriptive of what was committed or is just that they were df.i know that on the outside of the envelope the name is posted and that's it.but if someone were to open the folder and look inside can they get the detailed information on that person?.
when do the elders destroy such folders?can a person who no longer wishes to come back get their records and destroy them themselves?.
blueblades
There's really nothing in your records other than publishing stuff unless you've been dealt with judicially.
i've been doing some research this afternoon and come up with some interesting info.
well i think it's interesting because i've not read it before but if these links have been posted before please forgive me.
here's an interesting abstract: the mental health of jehovah's witnesses.
The Rick Ross site seems to be rather agenda driven and the study from Western Australia has been discussed in the past and is not very credible. I haven't seen anything on this issue that stands the tests of objectivity and factuality yet. Mostly you hear a lot of anecdotes. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a marginally higher incidence of mental illness among JWs compared to the general population but probably very little different than you'll find among other highly motivated or controlling religious groups. Very difficult to produce something useful in this area I think.
what exactly is put into the file on those who are disfellowedshipped?is the information very detailed,so that others can read such details,or is it just that they have been disfellowedshipped.. for example:suppose someone have been df.for a sexual matter,brother or sister.are the details descriptive of what was committed or is just that they were df.i know that on the outside of the envelope the name is posted and that's it.but if someone were to open the folder and look inside can they get the detailed information on that person?.
when do the elders destroy such folders?can a person who no longer wishes to come back get their records and destroy them themselves?.
blueblades
The envelope will contain the notes of the brothers that were on the judicial committee.
many of you who come to this site, no doubt, are deeply concerned about the future of the organization.
in addition,.
not a few who post here would like to see the watchtower society fade away into history.
The Soviet Union became increasingly more inefficient which I think is another parallel. The whole thing just stultified over time which is also happening with the Organization.
you want to hear a funny one??
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Ha! I remember taking a picture of a visiting DO, thoroughly engrossed in a Newsweek article, who quickly picked up a Watchtower for the picture and then went back to Newsweek afterwards. This lunatic comment is the same kind of thing, it's just for show because only a few nut cases actually pay any attention to it.
i know this has been discussed before but i think a fresh thread on this will be enjoyable.
Unfortunately that SOB is not dead but he's pretty sick.
the watchtower tries to slander and abuse anyone not on their side.
anyone that disagrees with them, "runs ahead of jehovah".
we are called "apostates" because we dare prove why the society is wrong.
If the exs will show a superior personality, not nasty, not vicious, etc. but kind, considerate, empathetic that will go a long way to fighting back. Witnesses are told repeatedly how horrible almost everyong is who isn't a Witness, demonstrating that's a lie makes a big difference.
